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come out and say the answer is more tax cuts and hand over your social security. i just wish we had a democratic president who would promise to change all of this. "hardball" is up next. enjoy. return fire. let's play hardball. good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. democrats are starting to play "hardball." to avoid disaster in november, democrats will have to get tough. they're going to have to punch back, they're going to have to nail the opponents, the republicans and the tea parties have been using against them. that means going negative. it means brutally honest, devastatingly negative ads. as one strategist pointed out, anyone who spends money on a positive ad may as well get give
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money to charity. the democrats are finally getting tough. and that's our top story tonight. plus, what scares you? what's to fear if the republicans grab control of the congress? another government shutdown in order to shift spending power to the congress? a relentless campaign to take down president obama. listen tonight to what the republicans themselves are offering up. also, we have a glimmer of good economic news this morning. the jobless rate ticked up a tenth of a point to 9.6%. and 54,000 jobs were lost overall because of the temporary census bureau jobs coming to an end. but the private sector added 67,000 new jobs, higher than expected. that offers hope that things are getting better in the real economic world out there. still some democrats are quite worried about ending bush tax cuts for the top brackets. we'll look into that. some of them are starting to get very wary at spending between now and election day, bring them back to higher rates for the richest americans.
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if there were already enough reasons to be angry with bp, and there are a lot, now the oil giant is saying to congress, bp may not be able to pay what it's promised to pay in damages to those people who got hurt down there. big sur prize. not really? let me finish by telling you the pair of people needs to put into his administration at the highest level to turn things around and merely make things work. let's start with the democrats playing "hardball." larry is a professor at the center for politics at the fabulous university of virginia. and susan paige is the washington bureau chief of usa today. it is one hell of a school. here are larry's numbers. they were out the other day. i want to start with your thoughts and predictions. 47 house seats go republican currently. enough to shift power to the republicans. eight our nine pickups of the senate seat.
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a net gain of eight governors going to the republican side. a very big win for the republican party. not a complete shutout yet, apparently. and a new usa today gallup poll says voters prefer a republican candidate across the country by 49% to 43%, which should be enough of a percentage, six-point difference to give them control as well. let me start with salbato. what is your current prediction? >> it is exactly what you suggested. republicans taking over the house, not be by an enormous margin, but a decent margin. having the chance to take over the senate. their biggest advantage and greatest breakthrough will be at the state level, br they'll not only pick up at least eight governorships out of the 37 in the ballot. they'll also probably pick up
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300 to 500 legislative seats. they'll take hold of legislative chambers, all critical for the 2011 redistricting process. >> susan, in your reporting, do you find those predictions correct? >> he's a little further in front of the house line. all the highly respected independent prognosticators say the house is gone. the senate, not quite yet, but not far. >> let's go to the fight right now. here are the toughest ads out there. they're all over the place. they're all getting tough. this is the democrats going after republicans. here's robin carnahan in missouri. her ad hitting roy blunt. here's a case where a democrat gets to run against a washington fdser big shot. one of those rare moments where the democrat gets to be the outsider in a race. let's listen to what she's saying. >> congressman roy blunt.
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he got caught trying to insert a secret deal for tobacco giant phillip morris into a bill days after company executives gave him $30,000. he voted to weaken the rules on lobbyist gifts. road corporate jets owned by a defense contractor convicted of bribery. rooi blunt, he's the very worst in washington. >> get the picture? let's go to joe sestak. he was on last night. the democratic pennsylvania congressman. here he is going after pat toomye, his opponent in pennsylvania. let's listen. >> do you think corporations pay their fair share? pat toomey thinks they shouldn't pay any taxes. the middle class is struggling, but toomey thinks isle companies and wall street banks should pay no taxes, zero sfwlchlt the
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solution is to eliminate corporate taxes all together. >> pat toomey, he's for them, not for us. >> i think that's a straight ad, larry. they're using the opponent's words. he's a real club for growther. i think it's fair to say to the pennsylvania voters, do you really want somebody this far over as your senator? >> i have no problem with that at all. that's factual. i have no problem with any negative ad or contrast ad that is factual, that uses the words, not taken out of context, of the opponent. chris, here is what democrats have to do. they're faced with a situation where they can't go to the voters and say, hey, everything is hunky-dory. happy days are here again. reelect me. isn't it terrific? instead they have to go to the voters and say i know you're unhappy. i know you want change. but look at this other candidate. you don't want that change. you dirty up your opponent. that's what the candidates are doing. that's what they have to do.
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>> if you do this, is there a risk, i'm worried for the democrats here. i've seen this happen before. if you say to somebody who is unhappy with the way things are before, yeah, but this person is worse, you're saying you don't have a choice. they might get ticked at you. >> the problem with doing negative ads like this if you're a democrat is not that the voters are in love with the republican party -- our polling shows more so in big change elections, people are just against the party in power. they're not enamored with the other side. you're not telling them something you don't know. >> just reminded them you don't like either side. maybe you're more afraid than angry. >> you may drive down some people from voting. people really energized this year are the people on the right, the tea party types. >> it seems like in all the ads, he's saying don't blame the government, blame wall street. blame these rich guys. here's a good set of ads.
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they're all nailing republican challenger sharron angle, who is pretty far out there in nevada. richard burr in north carolina, and meg whitman in north carolina. let's listen to this barrage of ads against the r's. >> sharron angle opposes extending unemt employment benefit ls. >> no, i wouldn't have voted for unemployment extensions. >> she says laid off workers are spoiled. >> they want to be dependent on the government. >> i'm not spoiled. i don't want to be dependent on anybody. >> we pulled one out of the water this morning. completely covered in oil. >> oh, he's covered. name senator richard burr. >> senator burr's record is a little oily. big oil has showered him with hundreds of thousands in campaign cash. >> for billionaire ceos like meg whitman, money makes life's little problems disappeared. she was sued for age
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discrimination and paid big bucks to settle the case. >> i like the angle ad. it seems like that's an honest ad. the others deal with satire and lampoonery. your thoughts? >> i agree. the angle ad didn't work because it's her own words and her own positions. chris, you know this because you talk to some of the same people. senior republican leaders would love to make one particular contribution to sharron angle. they want to buy her a one-way ticket to bermuda, coming back november 3rd, the day after the election. the less she says, the less she's seen, the better chance she has of winning. >> what are they going to do if she's in the united states senate? are they going to gag her? >> mitch mcconnell could end up
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with a caucus very difficult to manage with sharron angle and mike castle. >> this is going to be a strange motley crew of people there. >> it is the one hope of democrats in some races like senator reid's race in nevada that these candidates that have been nominated in the republican primaries are vulnerable. >> he figured that one out himself, didn't he? so he wouldn't run against him? >> is it enough? do you think? >> well, i don't know. i think he has a tough re-election. i'm looking at these numbers. i don't see a lot of movement, larry. when i see him tagging sharron angle as a whack job again and again, i wonder what voters think. they knew the guy was a little off. i saw the 19% of this country that voted for ross perot after he was certified as nuts, the 9
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19%. sometimes people vote out of anger. the democrats can be careful of the crazy voter, it seems. your thought? i'm sorry. >> chris, i'll make a long distance prediction for you. the long distance prediction for you is this is another class of '80 in the u.s. senate. a lot of one termers. enjoy the six years. they get some pension out of it. if they are friends of mitch mcconnell. get him a christmas case early, a case of extra strength excderin. >> thank you, susan. you have a good heart. everybody have a nice labor day weekend. i hope that doesn't sound partisan. do republicans celebrate labor day? what will happen if republicans lose control of congress in two months? could it lead to a government
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>> what can we expect if the republicans take over the house of representatives? some are talking about using government shutdown to get control of spending. steve is the news editor for salon. and sam is the political writer for the "washington post." when people go to vote, the first instinct of a lot of voters will be damn it, i'm mad. i'm voting no. we have to elevate that a little bit. your thoughts? if the republicans get control of the house of representatives. the way i explained it is they get control of spending, trade policy, subpoena, they have awesome power. they have oversight over the regulatory bodies. they can loosen up on oil and wall street whachl is the most important thing that the voters should know about if they're going to vote republican or democrat. >> one is subpoena power. you're going to see a slew of
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investigations launched. it will slow down the paste of government. it's dragging mud under the politicians. opening up investigations. whether there was vote trading there. the second thing is the power of the perks. one thing that we see now as being pledged by the gop is the way to defund health care is not to repeal the law, but to stop the money from going to it. what you may be able to expect is next year they don't pass money to pay for the health care legislation. in which case you have a real change of opinion. here he is talking about health care and what he'll do to it if their party wins control of congress. let's listen. >> will you pledge, congressman, if you are house majority to leader to see to it that a bill is brought to the floor of the house of representatives to immediately repeal obamacare?
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>> without measuring what position i will be or won't be, if i'm in a position to make that difference, absolutely i will pledge to do that. are you kidding? of course. >> if you're house majority leader, you will push for the bill immediately to repeal this. >> yes, yes, yes. i don't see how you ever thought i wouldn't be for doing that. now come on. >> that's like an interrogation. i thought i was watching the lives of others there for a minute. she drills these people. she's toughening up eric cantor. but he said what she wanted him to say. we will stop the spending. we will shut down the government for health care. your thoughts? steve. >> well, i think you're seeing what could be the difference between 1995, the last time you had republicans running the house and coming in running against a democratic white house. what happened that year is they played the game of chicken you're talking about.
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newt gingrich versus bill clinton. they shut the government down. >> so they closed down the smithsonian for two or three days. the turned the lights out in the capitol. we can save a few bucks that way. what's really scary. a lot of independent voters say so what? >> what happened in 1995 and what will happen again is they didn't say so what. it seemed radical to people. people are unnerved by anything they perceive as radical. newt gingrich sold the conservative revolutionaries out. he cut a deal with bill clinton. he reluctantly brought along the conservatives. what you're seeing in the interview is how different the climate is for republicans now. the tea party movement to me is the conservative republican base calling the bluff of the republicans if washington who for years have talked about lowering the size of government, cutting taxes, but having delivered. they cut the deal that gingrich cut in the end. they've always done that. the fox news crowd, the tea party crowd.
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they want to see the deal doesn't get cut next year. it's a dangerous position for republicans, potentially. >> so they're going to turn them into murkowskis and bob bennetts. if you're don't do what the tea parties want you to do, you're out. >> yeah. he basically said, we expect these people who were expected to vote on the reasons they were elected. >> this guy is a real tea partyier. very smart guy. he talks about supporting -- he talks about it up front. i'm going to support a government shutdown. i believe. let's listen to him. >> out of the gate, what do you start with? health care? >> absolutely. defund it. a repeal would be perfect. defund everything. get rid of the social aspects of government. not just in health care, but the other areas driving us into insolvency. >> but you'll have a president
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that will veto anything if the republican congress tries to act. >> you have to fund it. the congress needs an affirmative vote to do it. >> so starve them of the funds. starve the beast, so to speak. >> absolutely. and have the courage to shut down the government if we have to. >> that's not an unsophisticated voice. that sounds one of old writers for the national review. a smart conservative who knows what he wants. he's an ideologue. he's out to stop the way things are going. >> let's say the republicans have the senate. the joe millers are pushing for this? you'll have the joe miller part of the caucus, the tea party crowd that wants no compromise, no surrender ever. you'll also have scott brown from massachusetts. mike castle from delaware. these are the guys that will get pretty nervous, pretty fast when the public turns on them, which
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i really believe hay will. with the ptea party not wanting to compromise, what does mick mcconnell do in that situation? >> i love the image of the french and indian war. my favorite war. they had the ear of corn on their side. the rules wmpbt exactly that. they had to explain the battles after they occurred. these guys will have to live together. here's the republicans. if they win control of the senate. here's mitch mcconnell welcome g ing marco rubio, sharron angle, ranlds paul and joe miller. >> i think mcconnell holds the power. >> he's as smart as anybody running. >> he made a star wars reference, which was great. >> ludicrous. >> but i did some reporting
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today. craig shirley, i asked him what will the caucus look like next year. he said the gop will shortly thereafter descend into a brawl. >> wow, shirley and i think alone. let me go to steve kornacki on sa long. it's a progressive journal, i think it's fair to say. people on the progressive side of things vo to make a decision. are some of them, because they don't think barack obama is perfect, are they going to not vote in the face of the onslot of right wingism. >> i think this is the best voter the democrats could have in the fall elections is the prospect. every time you have a sharron angle or rand paul or joe miller talk about defunding the government and shutting it down. the people who have relied on the country for decades. every time they talk that way
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and see projections the republicans will be controlling the thing, that's the one thing that overcomes the disappointment with obama and disappointment with where things stand. >> but there's a big change 20 or 30 years ago when zboegoldwa or reagan would say something. cool it. talk about bread an butter. get off the ideology. the tea partyers aren't doing that. toomey is saying what he's saying in flat-out terms. no government. no subsidies. no taxes. i mean, stay out of the way. >> this is why i don't think it's wrong to tuk about the shutdown. all these people live in the belief they lost power because they boabandoned their principl. >> it looked like a washington maniac. >> you look at the retro
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sprektive pieces. they think it was a massive turning point. the image of him as a whiner screwed him over. they could win this thing. they want to stick to pirincipl. >> the right wingers when they come to washington, they're not going to make friends across the aisle. they're not going to say we're joining the team. toomey will stay pure by their standards. in other words fanatical. >> if they are the majority it's on them to set the agenda coming out of the house and the senate. it's easy to keep the moderate fraction. it's pretty easy to keep them on the same case as sharon aron an. when it's up to you to come up with something everybody has to
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say yes on, that's when it becomes a problem. it's a needle they have to thread. >> the differences in this campaign are becoming crackling well before election night. if we do our job by any time in october, people ought to know what the stakes are with clarity. thanks to you guys for coming here. coming up, a dentist from chicago is trying to convince hillary clinton to cut president obama and run for president this time. really? we'll watch the side show. maybe he's ahead of schedule. she's an amateur. maybe there's something there. who knows? [ engine revving ]
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she's hoping to pull off an upset. o'donnell was the senate nominee in 2008, but the lost the race to long-time senator joe biden, didn't she? yesterday conservative radio show host who backed o'donnell in '08 called her out on the claim that she won two of the state's three counties. i love when they get caught. >> when you were speaking at an out of state group recently and you told them you won two out of three counties in delaware, what did you mean? >> i don't think i said i won two out of three counties. >> well, let's listen to the audio. hold on one sec --
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>> she didn't tie either. they said more words. this candidate's loosey-goosey claim just isn't true. voters take note. mr. dan gaffney is not to be trifled with. >> next, say it ain't so. hillary clinton said repeatedly she will not run for president again. but a man spent $5,000 of his own money to put an ad on down in new orleans for some run.
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>> one thing that won't happen is that. parties that divide, divide, and half a party can't win. now for tonight's big number. a pew survey asked americans to name the chief justice of the supreme court. to make things easy, people were given four names to choose from, thurgood marshall and harry reid. how many correctly picked roberts? 28%. the thing is if people made a random guess among the four possibilities, the odds are 25% would have gotten it right. that's how many americans can tell you who heads the supreme court, 28%. awfully depressing not so big number. a growing number of democrats want to extend the bush tax cuts to the rich. will they torpedo the president's plan? [ woman ] nine iron, it's almost tee-time...
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this is your cnbc market wrap. stocks closing out their best week in two months on that better than expected jobs report. the dow jones industrial soaring 127 points. the s&p 500 moving up 14. and the nasdaq finishing 33 points in the green. employers cut 54,000 jobs in august. far less than the 100,000 economists were predicting. but investor inthenthusiasm wasy lukewarm. it wasn't quite bad enough to trigger additional measures in the federal reserve. but investors did dive back to the financial sector with a modern amount of gusto. goldman sachs leading the pack. and video game makers in the
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spotlight. take two interactive shares surging more than 7% after boosting the quarterly forecast. activision-blizzard, sony and apple all ending on the plus side as well. that's it for cnbc, first in business worldwide. now back to "hardball." welcome back to "hardball." september will be big fights over tax cuts. president obama wants to keep the cuts for the middle class and stop the cuts for the wealthy. here's white house press secretary robert gibbs on thursday asserting the president's position. >> i will reiterate what we have said throughout this debate.
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that is the president believes that the tax cuts for those in the middle class should be maintained. they should be kept. the money spent to keep the tax brakes. let's be clear. the majority of the money spent next year on maintaining tax cuts are for people who make more than a million dollars a year. that a statistical fact. >> here's chris van hollen, the in charge of electing democrats to the house. >> the big issue here is on the republican demand for permit tax cuts they're not saying only, well, let's keep this going for one more year. that can be part of the
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discussion. that can be part of the mix. >> have you said that? >> i don't think it's the best way to accelerate the economy. this are other ideas out there. that's not what they're saying. they're saying unless we get a permanent tax cut break for the wealthiest, we're not going with a permanent extension of tax cuts. >> something is going on. the ice is cracking here. two democratic house members who support the president's position on tax cuts. kentucky's john yarmuth who sits on the ways and means committee. we have a close personal friend we just lost, smith bagley. let me ask you about this. are any of your colleagues
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thinking maybe chris van hollen is speaking for them, maybe this debate shouldn't be about the long-run. maybe there's a delay in raising the tax rates back to where they were? is there any chance that may be the final outcome here? >> well, i think the outcome at least for me and i think for a number of democrats is we want to make sure that we protect working families, people making under $250,000, extend the tax cuts. for the 2% consuming $830 billion in the tax cuts, let's remove those for those upper income earners. this is simple. there are other tools we can look at stimulating the economy. >> so you're for a permanent return? >> absolutely. people making under $250,000 actually put their money back into the economy. those who make more than that simply don't. it's really not paid for at all
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for all the deficit hawks that would be put back into this economy. no way we should extend tax cuts for the top 2%. let's protect the 98%. >> is there some buzz to say the last thing the democrats need going into an wlex is to tell the tribute tors a lot of them do make over $250,000 a year, that their taxes are going up thanks to the democrats? >> there's certainly that concern. the cbo says if we let the tax cuts be extended, we'll extend a historic record of deficit and debt in relation to gdp in a 15 years. the issue now, i think if we wanted to, if we really want to prove we're interested in deficit reduction as a party, we need to make sure, as donna said, that we don't foot back this money into the millionaire's hands. we've had the greatest increase in disparity of the wealthiest americans and anybody else. >> that's true.
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>> yeah. we don't need to exacerbate that. >> here's your democratic colleagues and what they're saying. virginia's jerry connelly said this is no time toog anything jarring to a fragile economy. a vart majority of the c constituents don't believe in taxing anyone else at this time. and bayh saying the economy is very weak right now. raisinging taxes will lower consumer demand at a time when we want people putting more money in. there you have it. let me ask you this. here's the problem it seems to me. you folks are the pros. i'm watching this. you edwards first of all. what good will it do you politically if you pass a bill in the house in the next two months before the election, which raises taxes back to the
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old level. you go to the senate. they can't get the 60 votes to do that. they can't get the 60 votes to do. and you're stuck with your neck out there have been for higher taxes, and you can't make it into law. so you're just out there exposed. republicans come in next year and protect the rich. so all you zid was expose yourself politically with no social policy benefits. your thoughts? >> let me tell you, i think those are the political concerns, chris. and i think we need to be on the same page in the senate and the house so we can actually get a bill to the president. you're right. i don't think it makes sense for us to go into this blindly. but for 98% of working families making under $250,000, we need to extend the tax cuts and make them permanent. >> i'm sorry to interrupt. but can you actually get that done before you lose control of congress? before this session ends? can you raise taxes back to the old rate 39.5%.
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it didn't break the economy. a huge economy in the 1990s. some people should remember that. we were booming with those rates. if you can't get back to those rates and you try, is it like cap and trade? let me go to congressman yarmouth. >> lil give you the answer. you answered the question. you want me to throw it back to her. >> no, no, no. the answer to the political argue is you show whose side you're on. 98 pk of the american people whose standard of living hasn't increased. my brother in that category. my brother is in the barbecue business. he's to done well. he doesn't cay about paying an additional 4.5%. he said to me i want to make sure everybody else can afford barbecue. if i can't afford barbecue it doesn't matter what my tax rate is. that's where we are. we have to make sure everybody else does well.
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not the 2% hat the top. sfwl well said. thank you for coming on. thank you, congressman yarmouth. thank you so much. up next, oil giant bp. didn't you know this was coming? they're saying they can't continue. they can't keep drilling in the deep water where they got into trouble with the oil spill. they can't pay the money they owe to the people they screwed. isn't this predictable? so they want to drill deeper or they're not going to pay who they owe. we'll get to that in a second. or favorite foods fighting you? fight back fast with tums. calcium rich tums goes to work in seconds. nothing works faster. ♪ tum ta tum tum tums
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our clean-up efforts will not come at any cost to taxpayers. to those affected and your families, i'm deeply sorry. >> well, that man has his life back. welcome back to "hardball." remember that tv ad vowing to make things right? well, now that bp is no longer on tv 24/7, and that spewing in
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the gulf has stopped, the country is singing a different tune. singing a different tune. "the new york times" reports bp executives now warn if congress doesn't pass legislation that lets them begin deep water drilling again, they won't be able to pay the claims. isn't that sweet. here's what they're saying. if we're unable to keep those fields going, that is going to have a substantial impact on our cash flow. that makes it harder for us to fund things, fund these programs. here's another quote from a bp spokesman. i am not going to make a direct linkage to the $20 billion, but our ability to fund these assets and the cash securing these funds would be lost. bernard charbonnet represents people and businesses ached by the oil spill and also the former new orleans port authority chairman. we've counted on you as an expert for the human impact down there along the gulf coast. i know you know the news. the suddenly uncontrite company,
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bp, is now saying if they don't get their licenses back, their permits back to go back into the deep water where they got into trouble and lickety split, they're not going to start paying off that money. what do you make of that complaint by them? >> you know, chris, who's surprised? that's the question. who's surprised. this is the darth vader of the oil industry in the gulf coast. they are the fourth largest corporation, not in the united states but in the world. only 11% of their gulf -- of their oil operations in the gulf. they can pay for this thing out of their lunch money. now, this is what we expected. >> this is their ugly schtick, if you will, is this their way of saying if you don't like what we want you to do, you don't get your money? in other words, they're playing the schtick, not the sugar here. >> but this is not volunteerism. they're going to pay either the congress is going to make them pay or ultimately the courts are going to make them pay. i think they're waving the wrong
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thing here. there's no sugar on this stick. you're right, chris. >> let's talk about this whole thing of what happened down there. what do you make of this latest fire. you've been studying that. it apparently has a good result. nobody got killed. they put the fire out. what's your sense of it? >> frankly it was a fire. at first i thought i'd have to eat crow with you and rediscuss the issue of the moratorium. but that moratorium ends in november, as you know. it wasn't a big thing. it happens regularly but at the end of the day, the interior department's got to the get stricter. these guys are not going to police themselves. they've got to come down here with strict rules and regulations. you would think the industry would get together and say look, let's clean this up because we're only going to have more problems but they're not. we've got to rely on big government to come in and do big things. it's that simple. >> what's your hunch as an attorney? do you think people are going to get that money after all this fussing around and pr? >> yeah, i think they're going
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to pay some money in the voluntary good spirit kind of way. ultimately, bp doesn't want to spend any money. it's going to wind interrupt congress. if the congress doesn't do it, then the lawyers are going to get it. at some point the litigation has been permanentized in new orleans now. it's not going to be in houston. there's going to be so much litigation ultimately they're going to pay. the problem is that they're not paying quick enough for the little guy on the street, the 7500 or so oil rig workers, the poor fishermen out of business, can't buy an oyster in this town. this is a calamity of record proportion. >> i look forward to get down there and eat dinner at emeril's. >> i'm waiting on you. you denied meed that pleasure. >> i'll take to you dinner at emeril's. thank you sir for coming on. it's always charming to be with you. when we return, i'll have some thoughts who the president needs to put in his cabinet to help turn his presidency around.
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let me finish with tonight with plain to strengthen america's ability to solve its problems. it's tough and it's water tight. president obama has many strengths as this country's head of state. he's clear minded, gifted in intellect. art full in presenting issues and his vision of leadership. however, these past two years have been a shakedown cruise. we have seen weaknesses in this ship of state. this president needs to put a firm democratic brand on his defense policy. gates is a holdover from the bush era. there's no real connection between what the country voted for in 2008 and what we're getting in terms of terms of security poles. obama needs to bridge that gap. he needs to pick a democratic ally as defense chief. that democratic ally is hillary clinton. with her at the pentagon, he would forge confidence in middle east policy, friends of israel would know we have someone in
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charge of america's military force who's has an instinctive concern for the jewish state, a proven track record of support. it will help get the deal cooked over there and get tag deal is the very stuff of american greatness. now to the tough one, the economy. there's one person in this country with a track record the communications pizazz to help make, carry out and market the historic program still needed. his name is michael bloomberg. look, you can say this is outlandish that he would never take the job at treasury or white house chief of staff but there is a precedent. james baker made reagan a success and barack obama needs a jim baker, someone to focus the energies of this administration on economic reconstruction, period. someone who lay down the same strong chain of command on domestic policy that hillary clinton will define on the national security front. this is the answer. enough of the so solo

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